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August 10, 2011
5:30 p.m.


Chairman Specht called the meting to order at 5:30 p.m.
Roll call – Roger Bean-yes, George Vukich-yes, Chairman Specht-yes,
Dale Simonson-yes, J.K. Walsh-yes, Jim Collis-yes, Richard Mazzoni-no.
 Alternate – Jan Brendle – yes.  Quorum present.  Zoning Administrator
William Bruce present
William Bruce reported that the meeting had been posted and the
amended agenda had been posted in timely manner.  Minutes of the July
meeting were read.  Motion made by Jim Collis to approve the minutes
as written.  Second - George Vukich.   Motion carried.
Chairman Specht reserves the right to change the order of the agenda
at a later time if necessary.
NEW Business- Chairman Specht- We will review the  Ordinance for
Driveway and Highway Access Permits that was e-mailed to the members.
Zoning Administrator William Bruce reported he has received responses
from Mr. Mazzoni and Mr. Simonson..  #1 is too long, shorten it to
“the purpose is to regulate and assure, for the public health reasons
and safety reasons, the establishment.  repair, construction,
improvement, modification, and reconstruction of all private
driveways.  This is not a Town zoning ordinance”
Mr. Bruce explained that he took information from the State Statues
and used the pieces that fit our needs.  Mr. Mazzoni wrote that he
would like to see a table of contents, shorten/modify Section 1
Section 3 spelling error.
Mr. Bruce- We have no control over access on Highways- State, County
is over County Roads.  We will have control over Town roads.
Other issues- Sec 6 Paragraph D- fee- suggest $50.00.  Section 8
Penalty, forfeiture $200. to $300.  Other Town Ordinances are $200.
per day plus court costs.  Section 6- Mr. Simonson’s  - take out the
first line and start at Commencing
Chairman Specht discussed culverts are not necessary in most places.
William Bruce- culvert is used where there is a drainage ditch along
the road.  It is a judgment call.  This will read 15” below grade.
Roger Bean- Sec 1 – “not zoning ordinance” yet everything goes thru
the Zoning Administrator in Section 5.   Mr. Bean has seen where the
permit is issued by the Clerk and the follow up is Public Works
department.  Discuss Sec. 4, definitions.  Are they anywhere else,
need to be sure they are same.   Impacted Landowner, Clerk, not
mentioned.
Sec 6- after 6 mos. have to meet compliance- who will inspect..  Will
any be grandfathered?  Looks like all will have to be done.
Dale Simonson- It doesn’t say that- if need a driveway will have to
get a permit.
Roger Bean would recommend not to pass this ordinance.
William Bruce- reason  this ordinance was requested was we have no way
to go back to charge for damages if they deny responsibility.  This
would require identification, proof of operation.  Helps protect the
town from damages caused by contractors.
Roger Bean- can’t see why we need this as there are other ways to
pursue getting money back.
William Bruce- Burden of proof. States the contractor putting in
driveway, permit fee , maybe $10.00, contractor listed.  Prevent costs
to Town from damages by contractor.
Roger Bean- what if road is damaged 10 feet  away, would we be back
where we started?
Chairman Specht- Generally agree with Mr. Bean- 60% won’t get the
permit.
William Bruce- he receives calls monthly about driveway permits and
information.
Chairman Specht- question is do we need.
William Bruce discussed if putting in width, what are the
requirements?
Chairman Specht- Because there are requests for information, should
there be a fee attached?  We know the violators, we have enforcement
procedures in place.
Jim Collis- State and County have one and we need one.
Roger Bean- If we proceed we need to recognize State Roads and County
Roads. 
Dave Specht- not on private roads.
Roger Bean- If you believe that existing driveways aren’t affected by
this, need better wording.
George Vukich- Question is do we want to pursue this Ordinance,
Chairman Specht- Sec4- first line- just line it out.
Roger Bean- If need a permit- need 15 ft road surface.  Discuss 15 ft
wide and culverts.
William Bruce- 15 ft wide plus for a culvert 1 ft more each side.
Dale Simonson- When does this become effective?
William Bruce-date it is published.
Jim Collis- discuss last time damage done cost was about $3000.00. 
Can we vote to see if we should proceed?  Motion to proceed with the
Driveway and Highway Access Permit Ordinance.  Second- Dale Simonson. 
Motion carried 4/2.
William Bruce- any further information can be turned in to me (William
Bruce).
Chairman Specht- any other comments?
OLD Business- #.09, MVP is in final draft, 3.03 and 3.04- no further
changes.
Motion to hold the Public Hearing was made last month.
Roger Bean strongly recommends sending a letter to the newspaper for
the two notices they did not print.
Public Comment- None
Commission Member comments- None
Next meeting date will be September 14, 2011.  %:30 will be the Public
Hearing and “following” will be the meeting.
Motion to adjourn was made by Dale Simonson.  Second Jim Collis. 
Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Marion L. Uphoff
Assistant Clerk/Treasurer



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